First let me say your videos are absolutely fantastic. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. Franchi, the well-known maker of fine and affordable shotguns, unveiled an updated bolt gun in its Momentum Elite. I can not find on your website. Nothing problematic, but clearly noticeable. However, I kill a lot of elk where Im from, and my smaller 6.5s dont produce the knock down effect I had with the Weatherby. I mean, this is one heck of a tight group! In fact, I did a whole video showing the limitations of the Ruger American. Loved this article keep em coming! I want to buy a new rifle in 30-06. Thanks in advance. Now I want another one and to get in to some long range and MAYBE some hunting. Never fired, sold it for 600). No. I like the Sig Cross because its lightweight, easily adjustable to fit me or my kids, very accurate, and the short barrel and folding stock make it easily packable for hunts. Springfield 2020 Waypoint with a steel barrel, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $500, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $850, Click here to jump to the section on rifles under $1,600, Click here to jump to the section on premium rifles, a whole video showing the limitations of the Ruger American, ordering that rifle with a Vortex Crossfire II scope on it, Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint, Guaranteed accuracy of 3/4 MOA. I see that you really like the Savage, but I was wondering if you have shot the Howa? If a close friend asked me what hunting rifle to buy at each price point, these would be my recommendations: If you dont want to read this entire post, jump to the section for rifles in your budget. The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. Jim, would love to hear some feedback on Cooper firearms if you have any input? RECENTLY SOLD View More Data . I really like the stock design. Im looking for a great elk rifle/big game in left handed. So if I review it and love my copy, Id be convincing people to buy one and they very likely may not have the same experience. The action is butter smooth and the stock has a palm swell the sold me when I first picked the gun up. Very impressed. I saw you also mentioned something coming at Shotshow but did not see if you talked about this yet. I would like a 280 Ackley and Fierce only makes it in the Rival. Well, I picked up a momentum elite in .308, and absolutely love it so far, still deciding on a scope to go on it, but cant wait to get to shooting it. Agreed on the MarkV. Anyway, love the Backfire channel. I try to ruin stuff like this and am always amazed how much it will take. Franchi Momentum .350 Legend Threaded 24" Bbl FDE BA Rifle 41562. The action is a Mauser type like Sako. Honestly, you need to review one. Purchased an Sig Cross in 6.5 today. Available in six calibers, TTAG gave the $609 MSRP .308 Winchester flavor a test drive. I found accuracy to be okay but not great, feeding was okay but not great, and the design was usable, but not really modern. Watch my review of the MPR here. Though the forend wasnt perfectly centered coming closer to the left side of the barrel than the right side it was stiff enough that causing it to contact the free-floated barrel was difficult and wouldnt happen under most typical use. Yes if I were going to Alaska where you can run into damp rainy weather for days on end I would either have my Mauser electrolysis nickle plated (it plates even the inside of a receiver and barrel) or if I wanted to get off cheap take a chance on a modern stainless rifle that probably would freeze up in very cold weather with their speed lock mechanisms which are idiotic in a hunting rifle. I was all ready to order the Fierce but I see your post above and now I am on the fence. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned Pretty typical for a synthetic-stocked, budget-oriented hunting rifle. Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. Simply depress the rear of it while sliding the bolt out the back of the receiver. A lot of states dont allow semi-autos for big game hunting so check your regs. superbly accurate with federal non-typical 150s (second load i tried). Am I wrong in my logic? Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. Watch my review here. I purchased Savage Axis II XP- 6.5 Creedmore from Cabelas. I havent seen you review any CZ rifle, any cause un particular? Do you have any information on the Howa, or an opinion on which way I should. A junk injection molded plasticky stock that expands with heat and contracts with cold. Fierce is about $400 more and almost a pound heavier. Bergara seems to have just come out with a Walnut stock maybe as a result of one of you comparing their stocks to garage floors??? Base Price: $816.99: Tax: - In Stock: Back in stock . Myself being a lefty, I have been on the hunt for a good rifle for midwest deer and western hunting in 6.5 PRC. See also Gluck. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? Dumped lots of Deer, Black Bear and Moose with it. Mine is in 223 for chucks. Also, I am 62 and getting tired of the recoil my 7mm Rem Mag and .270 has, would the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC or 7mm-08 be a good alternative? Is it ever gonna happen or should I just buy a 6.5 prc? Accuracy * * * * * Great Content. Today, though, I would buy a Dead Air Nomad or a CGS Hyperion given the choice of anything on the market. You mentioned the seekins havoc, but not in detail. Base Price: $789.99: Tax: - In Stock: kygunco.com Buy. Indeed, the Momentums bolt only travels 60 degrees from fully open to fully locked and vice-versa, whereas your typical 2-lug job requires a 90-degree throw. Also, the very aged sporter stock design doesnt lend itself well to shooting long rangeespecially in such a light rifle. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. That limits my choice of rifles. Obviously your not going to buy one move on. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. Quality control issues, Im about to send it BACK in for a 2nd time for them to figure out why its damn near impossible to open or close the bolt after a few shots. What do you think of the French after some time? and see how it stacks up next to the high end factory rifles. Id probably go with the Weatherby, but both guns will be very accurate. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. Do you have any experience or thoughts on the JTAC? I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. With a typical retail price of $549, the Franchi Momentum is a lot of Italian hunting rifle for not a lot of cash. In my mind, there are only two good options in the sub-$500 price point: (1) The CVA Cascade, and (2) The Ruger American and preferably the Predator version. Surprisingly accurate. Required fields are marked *. I bought the MarkV Weathermark LT in the .257 WBY. Ive shot it twice and didnt like it either time. I want a lightweight rifle that has mild Recoil with ballistics similar to 270 Winchester but in a short action. This gun is very accurate, has a great bump pad to absorb recoil (unlike most wood rifles) and has a threaded barrel for good measure. Im in love. Great comment, Frank. If you had a choice between XBolt Pro & Dako finnlight 85 in 300wm what one would you choose. My assumption has been that given the limited rifles and ammos out, the x-bolt with browning ammo would have to work well together right out of the box. They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. Does that make sense from what I\ve mentioned? November 29, 2018 By Steve Gash. Fierce Reaper I just love it so much. Curious to hear your thoughts/experience with it. 3. and three-stage safety. But the chassis is the killer for me. Best purchase I ever made. The pistol grip is thicker than on many similar stocks, which I appreciate a lot, but at the same time a little more palm swell wouldnt hurt. Ive got a lot of autoloader pistol and AR experience, but my only bolt action is an old Mosin Nagant. Which one do you recommend, God-bless you for being a second amendment supporter I will pray for you your wife and your family God-bless, Wow! Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. Keep the good work buddy on your show. I agree with you. Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Hey Jim, The trigger is heavy, but thats true on the Browning XBolts as well. I do have a question that I hope you will address. Kimber Mountain Ascent Subalpine I just dont like the Kimber Mountain Ascent. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .308 Win 18" 1:11" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41750. And I need it in a shorter stock. With a Leupold VX-2 3-9x40 scope mounted on Leupold dual dovetail rings and loaded with a maximum of five rounds of ammunition, the Momentum I tested weighed almost exactly eight poundslight enough to carry on long hikes through steep country but not unpleasant to shoot. . I would love a 300 Win Mag. Im a big fan of Sig pistols and never had an issue with QC. The ammo is inexpensive and widely available, the recoil in manageable for most shooters, and the cartridge is unquestionably capable of taking elk cleanly. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. There lies my hole and question to you. I have been considering the Winchester xpr spotter (walnut stock) in 308 Win. All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. What is your honest opinion of the CZ 600 I havent heard you talk much about the Seekins rifles, any thoughts on them? Trigger pull is most critical for me. Interesting comparison. Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. I am looking to buy a Savage 110 Timberline in 300 win mag, what is opinion about it ? I dont see the stock being much different really. Never worried much about how my rifle looked either before or after the hunt. Helping the Franchi Momentum turn in great groups well, helping the shooter do his or her part better is a wonderful factory trigger. Would I buy this rifle? stock not sticky yet? or browning. Its a good option for light cartridges, but the light weight and stock design dont make for a good match on heavy cartridges. There was getting to the point where I found I needed better but thats not how the first few years took off. It's my 1st long-bolt (actually 2nd, I'd had Win 70 Ultimate Shadow 338 win mag. Manual cover also says- Do not use without reading Manual. If youre going to buy a Ruger American, know there are dozens of different configurations available. So small and packable, and Im getting incredible accuracy out of it. Moving back-to-front, things start out with a cushy rubber recoil pad. I really wanted a 6.5 PRC for my first hunting rifle but with the ammo limitations Im probably going to get a 6.5 Creedmore instead. It is a three lug 60 deg. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. Feeler gauges became shims for my lathe and mill. I was down to the Ultralite or the Savage High Country and went with the High Country because of this. Looking past your racism when you buy once and buy quality you never cry about it, your just damn glad you made the right decision because often a lost opportunity is just that, it never comes again in life. My mossberg patriot shoots like a custom rifle. Any opinion on it? Nearly every touch-point Ive had with the company shows obvious signs of errors. Get one , in 30-06 for the purest experience , and youll be convinced ! Im considering a modern Win 70 as well. The Tikka Superlite 7RM is my dedicated high country rifle, weighing in at 7.1 lbs scoped. But 300 WinMag doesnt fit in an AR15 and 6.5 Swede doesnt fit in a short action. The torque settings have to be exact and should use friction paper in the bottom rings. I just purchased a Rival this week. have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. Again not a spot of rust. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. The action is a little sticky at the back because its a 2-lug so theres a little play at the back if you arent pushing straight. Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. I recently purchased a Franchi Momentum 300 win mag w/24 in. Slim Fit Leather Jackets brings this iconic jacket from animation to reality, especially for all the fans of this video game. Would love a Tikka, but your notes on them provide the info for not making the cut. To be clear, youll load the rifle from the top, pushing one round at a time down and into the internal magazine, and this function allows you to safely and easily unload the Momentum. I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. Thanks, I have looked all over and cant find out much about these. Wont win any extra points for its weight but seems like a quality affordable and very accurate rifle. A very accurate danish produced rifle. I decided to go a different direction by changing out the barrel for a 20 inch Proof. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. My personal Ruger American shoots 0.8 groups consistently. The rifles are accurate, reliable, and built well. Wish you wouldve done a review on Mauser 18 or sauer 100 as I became interested in those two guns and did ultimately pick up a Mauser this year based on some other reviews. Vlad is typical progtard. I just took the first shots with the Winchester XPR in 6.8 Western today. and Keep up the good work! It looks to be right @ the very top of weight class Id like, but with the adjustable stock,shape,look & Carbon Barrel, seems to be right in the wheelhouse of what Id like for my larger caliber (wish they had it in .300 PRC) rifle. Franchi, a 150-year-old shotgun manufacturer, clearly felt it was high time an affordable Italian hunting rifle hit U.S. shores. I just want an all around deer rifle that is easy to find ammo for. LOL. Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. Yes, even if my hunting situation means most shots will be shorter range, I want a rifle that will reach out and make a 250 or 350 yard shot accurately in case it needs to. The Momentum is Franchi's hunting rifle, introduced by the Italian firm in 2018. JavaScript is disabled. Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. Id like to see a comparison between all the weather resistant advertised rifles, quality of weather protection materials, pros and cons of the different coatings or metals. Seekins is another I looked into but judging by the lack of representation in reviews I\m not confident in it either. Wow, what a shooter! Hey Jim, your videos are great not only on rifles, but optics too. I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. BarrelLength: 22 inches As a side note, I have a Sako 85 from Cabelas. Optional Features TSA Recoil Pads TSA recoil pads for LOP adjustment. In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. If so have they made any notable changes to this model over previous models? Had a question, What are your thoughts/opinion on the Wilson Combat AR10s? Have you reviewed one yet? What ammo are you shooting in your cross? What about the Winchester Model 70? guns.com Buy. He missed the entire point of the product to rant about what great deals can be had on old guns. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. I know its very high end but with a replaced hip and knee, I want anchored shots and believe that cartridge is a slight upgrade on the venerable 300WM. How is it Franchis fault again? Regards kjetil A B Strandengen. Unfortunately, I cant weigh in on the Sauer 100 yet because I havent tried it. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. I dont own one. Fierce rifles are accurate, built well, look great, come with good triggers, and feed perfectly. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle breakMOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. Fierce Rival I really like my Fierce Rival chambered in 6.5 PRC. Are you still doing a full review on that caliber? What is your opinion on the Edge vs Rival? Thanks for any input. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. Italians know firearms and so do the Finns. I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. Torn between CVA cascade or bergara b14 ridge in 7mm-08. He lives outside of Austin, TX. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. Ive fallen in love. Fierce are not perfect but over all compared to everything else on the market there really hard to beat. I thought of the Waypoint myself but I also like the Sako Finnlight II. I absolutely love the 2020 waypoint! I have a Sears gun with an FN Action and a deluxe hand checkered walnut stock (real hand checkering not junk machine cut checkering) in .270 caliber and I paid $300 for it used. Since Bergara use a Rem 700 barrel (action and trigger too?) Amway if anyone has one opinions please. You made your point. I have shot the Impulse and wasnt impressed. $699.00. The build quality was amazing, and shot sub MOA with factory Norma ammo. The new Elite versions now feature detachable box magazines, Cerakote metal finishes and stocks wearing popular camo patterns. They seem to check a lot of the boxes Im looking in a rifle and seem to have a lot of bang for the buck for a rifle just over $500. I own 30-06, i own a 300 win mag , now never pull anything out but the 300 win mag , it is a Browning A bolt with the belly clip , has the sweet spot muzzle break ,that takes care of half of the recoil and have the Remington butt pad . Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Appreciate the comment. Next. P.S. Jim, after watching the review of your Rival I wanted you to know I had the same problems with mine. Just a few examples of what is out there on the used market so why in the hell would anyone be dumb enough to buy modern made piece of garbage. Im going to let it cure for a day or so before testing it, if I still have an issue with slippage or it effects accuracy, I will switch out for new rings. With them being two different price points, Id be interested in your thoughts on spending the extra amount on the waypoint. The Tikka T3 features a standard box 3 round magazine but certain models come with a 4 round magazine. I know you like the CVA Cascade, but there are 2 things very important to know about those! Know it is not a bolt action rifle, but how does the Henry Long Ranger stack up against these options? I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. Boy, so many good 7 mags. So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? To this day when I pull that out for fun it still shoots tight groups. Im thinking a 6 creedmoore with a proof carbon barrel, MDT onyx chassis, timmey trigger but cant decide on the action. I was disappointed to see that you no longer recommend the Savage 110 ultralight, having watched the original review which just about made up my mind to spend the $1200. It is their lowest entry point to their rifles but looks interesting. I would love to see you review a Lithgow la102 from Australia. $1,299.00. Heres a link to that rifle in .30-06. You know Beretta will not support either rifle. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. What do you think about the CZ 557 line and the new 600s? This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. May 7, 2018. Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? I might add I have never found any real advantage with a short action rifle either. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. Yes please, there is a major lack of opinions out there on the LUPO. Hello from Bozeman, MT! Really enjoy your content! More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. 1 Image (s) Franchi Momentum Elite 6.5 Creed Realtree Excape 24" TB Burnt Bronze 41606. Hello Jim, great article. I own the X-Bolt in 7mm Magnum and it is fantastic. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. Releasing the floor plate of the 4-round, internal magazine is accomplished via a lever inside the front of the trigger guard. Thanks for your thoughts and time! I rarely hear manufacturing quality concerns about Weatherby rifles. Your primary con towards the Weatherby was around the cost of the company\s \boutique\ cartridges. So far really like it FYI. Yes and yes. Its an interesting concept but I prefer a traditional bolt. On the range, the Franchi Momentum Elite Varmint is a bit larger and heavier compared to some of the thinner and shorter barreled Momentum rifles, coming in at 9 lbs., 6.4 ozs. A fine rifle like this is perfect for beating to shit while you learn the other basics. Overall, the rifle is kinda heavy so itd be nice to reduce recoil a bit. I own a Tikka T3 in .300 WSM and love it as my go-to big game hunting rifle. Launched on the March 2018 cover of Guns & Ammo, the Momentum was actually Franchi's first rifle. A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. I would love those see a review of the Benelli Lupo.Ive been shooting mine for little while now and I have to say it is a very accurate hunting rifle with a great ability to conform to just about anybody.Hope to see a review in the near future.Da Butcher. (The extra mags are also only like $20 which is nice, too.) Again one star better than average in this category, but it still leaves plenty of room for improvement. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. Id love to give one a good in-depth review, but I havent yet. As you can see I am a gun collector and have not used my 7 mm Mag. Using Burris Zee rings, I just applied a thin layer of silicone sealant inside the rings and remounted the scope. Franchi was founded in 1868 in Brescia . Would love to hear your review and/or thoughts on military surplus and/or rifles you and friends first started on. They are built in the same factory where they produce Mauser and Blaser rifles (all owned by the same company), so I guess quality shouldnt be an issue but unlike Mausers and Blasers, these rifles are far less expensive. The stock is among the best I have ever used, its reasonably lightweight, excellent on accuracy, and the manufacturing quality is reliable. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. Ive got an old 700 that is a beautiful gun and was a great deal but Im taking the plastic stock Savage up in the tree this fall. Luckily I was at a store on vacation that let me handle both. Im looking for a 7mm-08 in a left handed model. Ruger Americans are fantastic. Theres also the option of ordering that rifle with a Vortex Crossfire II scope on it. Awesome at this price range. Probably going to be the Waypoint. I dont know if wood and metal rifles are extinct but it looks that way in Scheels. John did tell me that they are currently working on a fix for the extractor problem. I\m also looking at the Seekins Havak PH2? Bergara B14 Hunter? Just my two cents, but would love to hear an honest review of these rifles. Though the tightest of those were from outlets that shoot 3-round groups, for what thats worth (well, its worth a tighter average group size). Which leaves Winchester, Weatherby, Tikka/Sako. I was about to buy a Christenson Arms rifle but you and a few others have commented about the quality. threaded barrel w/muzzle brake. Hi Jim, 99% sure the next rifle is the sig cross but real question is 6.5 cm or .308 I cant decide. Franchi lists the Momentum's weight at 6.6 pounds, unloaded and unscoped. Thank you. Non custom rifles are often a hit or miss affair. Weight: 6.6 pounds Likely sub-half-MOA. Excellent 3/4 MOA accuracy with Hornady Precision Hunter ammo, QD Flush cups and picatinny embedded in the stock, Available in all the most popular chamberings for custom rifles (including 7 PRC), I personally would have preferred that they went with a more modern vertical grip, I wish there were an arca rail on the bottom of the forend for connecting to a tripod. However, if this was not a ringer and indicative of the accuracy to be expected, it would be a great entry level rifle. And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. Why no ones talk about the sakos in the states?? I dont think any mauser action rifles allow you to drop around in because of the claw extractor. Jim, Love your channel and have spent most likely 30 plus hours reviewing your videos. Doesnt do it when there is no round in the chamber. Hey Jim! So, too, will the rifles 2-position safety allow you to load and unload safely. Browning X-Bolt Pro I like the X-Bolt Pro. It feels almost as rigid as concrete, and thats a good thing. Cheers. bolt turn was a bit rough out of the box. Highly recommended. It appears that Fierce is stretching the truth a bit on weight because mine weighs 6 pounds, 4 1/8 oz and its a short action with 24 6.5mm barrel so it should be about the lightest one they have. Thank you. under 9 lb 7 mm or 300 w m. Jim, I know you are a fierce fan. The gun feels good in hand and the trigger feels great. What do you think of the weight of the gun compared to some of these lightweight carbon stocks? Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. Scope bases follow the Remington 700 mounting footprint, but the action length does not so only 2-piece R700 bases or separate rings will work. Some day Ill give one a more fair look. I looked it up and the barrel profile is exactly the same for bigger calibers. I appreciate your knowledge and insight. A little heavier than the cross but the little feedback Ive seen has been good. Would like to buy a Tikka Super Varmint barrel and action with MDT chassis but am also considering Bergara UpR. Thats a nice collection. Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. I love to hunt white tail deer in Arkansas. Its just so short, light, and accurate. In depth and honest (Great videos by the way!!). That said, the polymer quality and stiffness are better than many. Travis Skurray from Australia. Weatherby also makes it in some non Weatherby calibers. what makes it a Bergara? I would like something under 6# for $2000 or less with a carbon wrapped barrel. I might just know about a new rifle coming in January 2023 that might change your mind, Awesome reviews Jim. Performance is really good. It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. Actually, I like it a lot. After reading you, I am going to use them now for hunting. i have a momentum in .308. stock looks a bit odd, but handles my frame very well. I have the weather extreme in 25-05 that I purchased for a Pronghorn hunt topped with a Leupold VX6 HD.
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