Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for. Couples with a heavy 12th house/ 6th house polarity have to find a way to put their wisdom to some practical use. @ more very amazing thing IF this is still not enough proof: My Moon and Mars conjucts his North Node (fairly tight 2-3 degrees conjuction) His NOrth Node conjucts His own Pluto (good old Pluto might just kill me with his north node conjuction (i wonder if that is the plan here?) Thanks a lot Dawn, now I understand it. Your relationship usually starts out as a friendship or as "good friends". the davison chart also has our moon, venus, saturn and uranus in the 1st. We share the same dreams, communicate telepathically, had a fated magnetic meeting; we are truly best friends. Black Moon Lilith in 5th or 11th house in composite chart: This . More, we have a 5 cluster Scorpio in 9 (Moon, Venus, Neptune, Jupiter and Mercury), a composite Sun in Sag in 10, with Pluto and Uranus conjunct in 7 and unaspectted Gemini NN in 4 we also have a lot of 6/12 house contacts in synastry and 21 conjunctions (far from being easy!) The diurnal chart's house cusps will also conjunct progressed and directed planets throughout the year and can mark significant days. We have a composite Pisces Ascendant (3) with a Pisces Saturn in 12 conjunct Ascendant. How ironic! We are mainly connected by a love of art, music and film. Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. With composite Pluto in their 9th house, danger lies in dogmatism. As a 8th house sun Virgo 8th Venus Leo I am sure this adds to my sexual nature. WhiteLotus. What of mother-daughter pairs? We have our composite sun in 12th house, along with saturn. The composite chart has Sun/Jupiter conjunct by degree in the 12th in Scorpio, moon in the 12th in late Libra, and Scorpio rising. Im sorry, Kyveli, but this is too complex a question to answer in the space here. In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together. This is where our own shadow meets the shadow of the collective. The same person I've had mutual 12th house synastry with has sun in 12th house composite with me. Lilith in partner's 12th house may represent emotional outbursts, manipulations and obsessions. We both experienced he physically (I think) something weird when i was very close to him and I saw something mind boggling in the night when Venus turned retrograde this year. Its weird weird weird . Good luck. Juno is not only about romantic partnerships, but has to do with equality in general. This is the empty space, the place where we are not like others, the place where the pieces dont fit. After I read and then I re-read this was the conclusion that I am more confused than before but more peaceful and more tolerant with my fate. Composite Pluto in the 9th house: There is an added layer of complexity to their combined life philosophy. I feel sad about that. but the composite chart provides the critical information of where a relationship is going and what are its advantages and disadvantages? When composite Lilith is placed in the eighth house of the composite chart, this makes the relationship between the two people very intense. however, we are very well aspected with neptune in trine and sextile to our nodes, as our sun, but our vertex is opposed and conjucted. But there will be some crisis where they have to define their love and anchor it some useful purpose. thanks!! The Autumn Schedule is Here! I had to spend years unlearning what love is to me and settle with how individuals differ in what we value in a relationship. We have an interesting stellium in the 6th Uranus, Eros, Ceres, and Vertex all within a degree of each other. Comfy date, lots of laughter, he contacted me for a second date. My question is this: Does our Sun/Mercury conjunction in the 12th composite necessarily have to mean we are destined to learn a particular lesson and then part? When Pluto is conjunct the North Node, our mistakes can be more dramatic and our adjustments have to be greater. Will we stay together after we have learned our lesson together? In astrology, the Twelfth House governs the unconscious, addiction, jails, higher self, and psychic abilities. Aspects to composite planets will fill in the details. and Ceres in Pisces in his 12th and all conjunct his lilith. We both feel we have been together over many lifetimes. Thank you very much Dawn. I have composite sun and moon in house 12 with my brother. We also have 3 composite planets and an asteroid in house 8. I felt (sorry to say) that he is the big love of my life! Do you think perhaps its just the heavily dominated 12th house of our composite chart thats responsible for my belief that we may be twin flames? Mercury in 12th House. Illusions yes I know. mars is trine composite sun, pluto, uranus jupiter and neptune- but square moon saturn. There is a lot of love between us, much alignment in our dreams and life goals and a feeling of being soul mates and yet a strange disconnect emotionally that has us often feeling like we are on completely different wavelengths. I am a strong 12th house person- the sun in Libra conjunct Pluto/Mercury in Scorpio, with Saturn in Scorpio widely conjunct my Scorpio ascendent (I told you I was intense) and he has no planets in the 12th. Another concern is his Saturn and North node in my MC/IC and my Mercury/Mar (ruler of my 7th) in his Asc. Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this. There is also a Mars in the 12th that doesnt get really any support from anything. Sorry, I cant respond to lists of aspects. Thank you SO very much for this post. Venus/Uranus is difficult in the composite, but it doesnt explain your obsession. P.S. The Sun and Moon in the 7th house are especially encouraging for a new relationship (if you're single) because your main focus for the year (the Sun) plus your emotional concerns will be united in that area. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. It is commonly thought that the Moon governs emotions and intuition, and it does. Maybe someone else on the page will have an answer for you. Composite Houses, I'll begin, of course, with the Ascendant and the first quadrant of the chart. Saturn in 6th or 12th house in composite chart: This is a strong healing or service oriented relationship and you will work hard together for those purposes. From what you said, it seems like perhaps these give the relationship an element of commitment, partnership, and longevity that it wouldnt otherwise have albiet in an unusual, community-oriented way. Our composite sun is in the 7 house. I am 38 years old and have a Scorpio 12th house stellium (Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, and Neptune) so I am painfully, and blissfully, intimately aware of this energy. The relationship only lasted a few months but for some reason it has left a deep-seated, soul-touching impression with me. And would that mean -lets say- if this persons partners personal planets conjuncts to his north node would he lose the partner or would he lose god because he put that person (her planets) between himself and god! The fourth house is . I was heart broken all over again. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. Wow, everything in this article is so accurate + written so beautifully. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. Neptune tries to tell us that we cant own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. In my experience, the Davison chart reveals more of the day to day reality, and the midpoint chart reveals the inner working dynamic. Again, sadly, this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. 8th and 12th house seem to have haunted me for most of my life , Your email address will not be published. I also have two stelliums in the 11th and 12th of my natal chart.a total of 8 planets (6 in Leo). I have read your response about 12th house and i really do agree with you. Is Your experience the same? I love him more than Ive ever loved any man I knew immediately. We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). Oh, and we have a 7 year old son. The Moon squares Mercury and Venus in the 9th, Pluto and Saturn in the 3rd, and squares the MC. My nn is conjunct his sun and mercury. Well, his descendant point, and his ascendant ruler both conjunct my natal Lilith in my12 th house, orb2. All this seems to confirm your analyses of the other composite houses, as well. WhiteLotus. And they might move next year to another town because of their son so I am already dying from the thought that I will not see him after that. Eventually, we learn that life is not as random as we thought, but full of purpose and meaning. We were happy plutonicay together. It confuses us, as is appropriate with a house that Neptune rules. We are from different countries and we live bliss for few moments and then a lot of despair and pain separated without any logic A tough road between Heaven and Hell! but thats life afterall! But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile. Such a great article! This is an ultimate guide to Lilith in the Twelfth House of astrology! so we find the True in each other. The These are just a few of the synastry aspects. Whatever I told you would not have a context. Our mars is in cap in 3rd house and mars in 11th house libra. I might even say hes one of the closest people to me. What if the composite chart has two strong stelliums: one is made up of the outer planets in the 12th, the other Sun/Mercy/Venus/Juno in the 10th (and moon and mars are in the 8th). The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. Though many of the things you have said have been true, and there are challenges, I know we are committed to knowing each other and spending this precious time together. Is this why I am feeling this more? Thank you for this article. (Not at all helped by the fact that his Venus is square to my Sun at exact degrees.) It contains everything and nothing . But my heart and mind keep telling me to fight again. Astro-Seek.com Seek and meet people born on the same date as you . and then mars, Jupiter and neptune in the 2nd. If you dont like how someone operates, who cares how connected you are to them? Whitelotus. On the one hand We are meant to be on the other, But if we are, why is it so hard?, When a couple has planets, or an important planet, in the 12th, it can go a couple of ways. Two sides of the same coin. Dear Dawn, Is it a dream come true, or a big lie? It has felt fated, mesmerizing, seductive, magnetic and karmic. Our synastry with my beloved couple is very strong with good connections between both 1th and 7th house rulers and many positive aspects like double whammy saturn-moon, and positive ascendant-moon, ascendant-venus, venus-moon, and so warm and intense pluto conj. It feels that we are very free together than alone. Yes its probably the case, but as it is unconscious, how could I manage it , or prevent myself from feeling this ? The Mars/Neptune square did bring an element of slipperiness, but mostly irritating fibbing on his part. We get along very well but our relationship is being kept in secret (which sucks) and the Saturn and Pluto opposite Asc. There are 12 houses of Nessus divided according to the sun signs, such as the rst house belongs to Aries, the second house to Taurus, and so on. Mars in the 12th can mean unconscious eroticism, aggression, or desire. Happy holidays and thank you for this article. I have 3 planets in my natal chart in 12th house (mercury,sun,mars) and we have 2 planets,which are identical in my natal(mercury and sun), in the composite chart in 12th house with someone who i talked for 6 months but we never dated.We also have our moon in pisces in 6th house. However, Eros in the 12th may mean a less conscious eroticism drives the relationshipwe think we know what were doing but we may not, and may be subject to desires of all kinds. There is, without a doubt, an element of longing in the 12th. Thank you very much for the answer. One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. But it was very devastating experience getting physical, it really failed the first time and we didnt try it again. It shapes the relationship between two persons. That was over three years ago. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. or is it irrelevant ? Astrology Symbols, Elements, Modalities, & House Types. Is it possible that 2 people with so much 12th/water house activity; both within synastry and composite, there is any hope for them to just be normal and happy together without karma or something else getting in the way? We met 3 months ago, and live 300 miles apart. I never understood that statement could you put some light on it for me? composite moon and saturn are in fifth house. Learning to become unattached to outcome is a Neptunian theme in general. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. Juno in the 12th means that there are unresolved issues surrounding equality in relationship and some sort of sacrifice in relationships will be necessary in order to discover that balance. Neptune is in the 4th, Libra. I am NOT usually like this. Sometimes the path isnt easy to find, and we make lots of mistakes along the way. Transit Pluto in the Composite 12th House. ? When we split up I cried every day for a month. In a negative way, the struggles within the partnership will cause the Pluto person to see where his or her behaviour needs adjusting. The composite chart with the man Im involved with has an extremely tight Moon/Mars conjunction in the 12th, along with the North Node. Our ascendant is also pisces but our Uranus-Venus opposite position makes lots of deals in our relationship besides the 12th and 6th house. Im in hawaii for a month, after he broke up with me for the last time, trying to get my strength and sanity back and assure myself that you should not have to TRY so hard for things to work, when these 12th issues come up to work on. A Venus in the 12th House man is a sweet, gentle, kind of person who likes to help both people and animals. I am reasonably happy in my 3+ year marriage, and yet, I still miss my former boyfriend desperately sometimes. I think this is SO true . The Pluto struggle with the ego and power will engage with the partners planetsin a positive way, the partner can become a guide. And what does it mean our 12th. Transit Venus in the Composite 12th House. sounds pathetic, but thats just the nature of 12th house love; you cant downsize or decrease its feeling and meaning.. What a way to describe it ~ nebulous, yet mysteriously powerful influence on our lives or my life as far as i know, this was exactly how I confused myself in this short and intense relationship with an ex. Im not quick to say its an illusion, but its not quite real either, and you can get into some dangerous territory in the 12th by telling yourself things that arent really true. Even the sexual draw of 8th house connections can be replaced by more of them down the road, or by the excitement of the 5th. VERY-VERY SORRY! A share a composite chart with a stellium of planets (Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune) in the 12th house with cusp on Scorpio. Could I ask Your opinion? i dont know, looking at this chart, it has completely different emphasis, from my regular composite. cheers:). Its also trine to the moon and sextiling Uranus. The inner planets are where we liveso yes, the 10th house stellium will have more influence on a day to day basis, and then once in a while the outer planets will come out to grab us with whatever their issues are, particularly by transit or progression to the stellium/12th. I have been so confused and you describe it so accurately. We also have composite Juno in Aquarius in the 4th house (opposing Mercury in the 10th and trining the Ascendant), and Venus tightly conjunct Saturn in the 11th (Leo). I can no longer approach love as wholeheartedly again. Together we share a Mars 12th. Im sure a lot of my readers have been there and sympathize with you completely. Lilith in : 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th Lilith - astrology meaning Black Moon - Fascination and Denial Lilith is a fictional point - the second empty focal point of . great post- thank you! You can imagine the past 10 years have not been easy. I have my sun in the 12th house of my natal chart, and we both have venus in the 12th house of our natal charts. My natal venus is in the 12 th house. And we both natally have same aspects, my mars is in my 12th and his moon is in his 12th also. New Classes and Courses Beginning In September! I can honestly say that I love this man from the highest level of my being, but I dont feel we belong together in a committed relationship. We dont really grasp whats in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planets function. What is the best approach? I feel like I never want tk part from this man. You dont want, on the whole, a composite Mars in the 12th square to Neptune, unless you are missionaries or you plan to open up a swimming pool installation company. I havent spoken to him in a couple of years and my heart is still broken. What do You think about Davison Chart? A recent class in assassins revealed that the victims often had many planets in the shooters 12th house. . thanks you very much Dawn to shed some lights on this! The relationship has been on & off, again and again for 28 years. My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). Entering through my dreams, plenty of astral seduction going on out there in the ethers. Me and my sweet friend have Sun, Venus and Mercury in Cancer in the 12th, trine Neptune in Scorpio in the 5th, sextile Moon in Taurus in the 10th, but square Saturn in Virgo in the 3rd. It can be in a subconscious way, and you subconsciously want to have all of the power and control. I have forgotten to say, as for HIS Lilith, its conjunct my Desc (orb -1) which is an interaspect I cant give meaning to, (too hard to analyse for me) but however, it also is a new lilith matter. Unfortunately, the 12th House is one of the hardest places for Lilith to be. The Sun person sees in the 11th house person someone, who they can spend pleasant time with. Lilith in the 12th House. It can also mean, in this case, unconscious elements making themselves known via the Ascendant in mysterious ways. Usually, life will present us with huge dilemmas that cause us to choose between the ego and the soul path. Those with this placement can benefit significantly from learning how to . This guy in my life puts Libra venus in my 12th (conjuncting my own Libra venus in 12th). The point is not that the telepathy is an illusion, the point is that its real, but it doesnt matter. Im a Pisces sun 7house. We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. People born with Chiron in the 12th house struggle with their psyche, spirituality, and vulnerability. This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. Oh wow, Im glad to be reading this after the fact. My sympathies. They rip the rug from under you every other day. Telepathy, visiting one another out of body, lucid dreaming where they communicate with one another, strange psychic links and melding of the two energetic bodies. It has left a hole in my heart, (composite chiron conjunct asc) and I suffered from insomnia regretting I should or shouldnt have done. Something is whispering in their ears. This compo Pisces Lilith in house 12 falls on the exact degree of my natal Waldemath H58 , and she also falls on his natal antivertex. Once they have hammered out their imbalance (too little, too much is often a theme with the 12th) they must find a way to make something real of their inspiration. We still keep in touch as just friends occasionally, and sometimes I feel like I am having conversations with him in my head. me and this guy who dont know each other properly have same ascendants and house cusps natally. . (We also have some 4th and 8th house synastry with me as the planet person, and 3 planets in the composite 4th). In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. We grasp for the handrail, and find nothing to hold on to. We feel that our twelfth house planets dont work the way our other planets do, or the way that same planet seems to behave in other peoples charts. )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness.
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