The only way to make Ventoy boot in secure boot is to enroll the key. There are many kinds of WinPE. Installation & Boot. The main annoyance in my view is that it requires 2 points of contact for security updates (per https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review) and that I have some doubts that Microsoft will allow anything but a formal organization with more than a couple of people to become a SHIM provider. for the suggestions. wifislax64-2.1-final.iso - 2 GB, obarun-JWM-2020.03.01-x86_64.iso - 1.6 GB, MiniTool_Partition_Wizard_10.2.3_Technician_WinPE.iso - 350 MB, artix-cinnamon-s6-20200210-x86_64.iso - 1.88 GB, Parrot-security-4.8_x64.iso - 4.03 GB So, Fedora has shim that loads only Fedoras files. Linux distributives use Shim loader, each distro with it's own embedded certificate unique for each distro. And of course, by the same logic, anything unsigned should not boot when Secure Boot is active. Link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/5zui8pq5p0p9zug/Windows10_SuperLite_TeamOS_Edition.iso/file That is the point. To add Ventoy to Easy2Boot v2, download the latest version of Ventoy Windows .ZIP file and drag-and-drop the Ventoy zip file onto the \e2b\Update agFM\Add_Ventoy.cmd file on the 2nd agFM partition. There are many suggestion to use tools which make an ISO bootable with UEFI on a flash disk, however it's not that easy as you can only do that with UEFI-enabled ISO's. By UEFI enabled ISO's I mean that the ISO files contain a BOOT\EFI directory with a EFI bootloader. mishab_mizzunet 1 yr. ago XP predated thumbdrives big enough to hold a whole CD image, and indeed widespread use of USB thumb drives in general. I have installed Ventoy on my USB and I have added some ISO's files : It's the BIOS that decides the boot mode not Ventoy. @ventoy used Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk files to disable UEFI file policy, that's the easiest way, but not a 'proper' one. Well occasionally send you account related emails. Paragon ExtFS for Windows The virtual machine cannot boot. So if the ISO doesn't support UEFI mode itself, the boot will fail. downloaded from: http://old-dos.ru/dl.php?id=15030. Of course, there are ways to enable proper validation. You signed in with another tab or window. Some bioses have a bug. Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. The injection is just like that I extract the ubuntu.iso and change/add some script and create an new ISO file. However, considering that in the case of Ventoy, you are basically going to chain load GRUB 2, and that most of the SHIMs have been designed to handle precisely that, it might be easier to get Ventoy accepted as a shim payload. Attached Files Thumbnail (s) Find Reply Steve2926 Senior Member After installation, simply click the Start Scan button and then press on Repair All. (The 32 bit images have got the 32 bit UEFI). The user has Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSUSE ISOs which they want to load. After boot into the Ventoy main menu, pay attention to the lower left corner of the screen: However what currently happens is that people who do have Secure Boot enabled will currently not be alerted to these at all. Extracting the very same efi file and running that in Ventoy did work! If you use the Linux kernel's EFI stub loader or ELILO, you may need to store your kernel on the ESP, so creating an ESP on the large end of the scale is advisable. That's actually the whole reason shims exist, because Microsoft forbade Linux people to get their most common UEFI boot manager signed for Secure Boot, so the Linux community was forced into creating a separate non GPLv3 boot loader that loads GRUB, and that can be signed for Secure Boot. Passware Kit Forensic , on Legacy mode booting successfully but on UEFI returns to Ventoy. That would be my preference, because someone who wants to bypass Secure Boot indiscriminately, without disabling Secure Boot altogether, should have a clue what they are doing, and the problem with presenting options as a dialog is that you end up with tutorials that advise users to pick the less secure option, because whoever wrote happened to find the other choices inconvenient without giving much thought about the end result. You can press left or right arrow keys to scroll the menu. Which brings us nicely to what this is all about: Mitigation. its okay. Already on GitHub? Again, I think it is very fair to say that, if you use use Ventoy on a Secure Boot enabled system, and you went through Ventoy Secure Boot enrolment, they you expect that ISOs that aren't Secure Boot compliant will be reported, as they would with other means of using them on that system. @DocAciD I don't have a Lenovo, ThinkPad or a ThinkCentre, Getting the same on TinyCoreLiInux (CorePlus), URL; http://tinycorelinux.net/downloads.html, The ISO must be UEFI-bootable and have a UEFI64 boot file \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI Will it boot fine? In Ventoy I had enabled Secure Boot and GPT. Ventoy should only allow the execution of Secure Boot signed executables when Secure Boot is enabled, Microsoft's official Secure Boot signing requirements. Getting the same error as @rderooy. Menu. This means current is Legacy BIOS mode. Which means that, if you have a TPM chip, then it certainly makes little sense to want to use its features with Secure Boot disabled. Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi. Therefore, unless Ventoy makes it very explicit that "By enrolling Ventoy for Secure Boot, you understand that you are also granting anyone with the capability of running non Secure Boot enabled boot loaders on your computer, including potential malicious ones that would otherwise have been detected by Secure Boot", I will maintain that there is a rather important security issue that needs to be addressed. Where can I download MX21_February_x64.iso? If you really want to mount it, you can use the experimental option VTOY_LINUX_REMOUNT in Global Control Plugin. but CorePure64-13.1.iso does not as it does not contain any EFI boot files. I think it's ok as long as they don't break the secure boot policy. I also hope that the people who are adamant about never disabling Secure Boot do realize that, as it stands, the current version of Ventoy leaves them about as exposed as if Secure Boot was disabled, which of course isn't too great Thankfully, this can be fixed so that, even when using Ventoy, Secure Boot can continue to fulfill the purpose it was actually designed for. And we've already been over whether USB should be treated differently than internal SATA or NVMe (which, in your opinion it should, and which in mine, and I will assert the majority of people who enable Secure Boot, it shouldn't). From the booted OS, they are then free to do whatever they want to the system. I've hacked-up PreLoader once again and managed to cleanly chainload Ubuntu ISO with Secure Boot enabled. Just some preliminary ideas. Haven't tried installing it on bare metal, but it does install to a VM with the LabConfig bypasses. Is Ventoy checking md5sums and refusing to load an iso that doesn't match or something? @ventoy I can confirm this, using the exact same iso. New version of Rescuezilla (2.4) not working properly. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI. 2. Please test and tell your opinion. In the install program Ventoy2Disk.exe. Users may run into issues with Ventoy not working because of corrupt ISO files, which will create problems when booting an image file. *lil' bow* Guid For Ventoy With Secure Boot in UEFI Help !!!!!!! Parrot-security-4.9.1_x64.iso - 3.8 GB, eos-eos3.7-amd64-amd64.200310-013107.base.iso - 2.83 GB, minimal_linux_live_15-Dec-2019_64-bit_mixed.iso - 18.9 MB, OracleLinux-R7-U3-Server-x86_64-dvd.iso - 4.64 GB, backbox-6-desktop-amd64.iso - 2.51 GB Have a question about this project? I should also note that the key used in Ventoy is the same used in Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk, my key. In Windows, Ventoy2Disk.exe will only list the device removable and in USB interface type by default. So, Secure Boot is not required for TPM-based encryption to work correctly. A lot of work to do. may tanong po ulit ako yung pc ko po " no bootfile found for uefi image does not support x64 uefi" i am using ventoy galing po sa linux ko, gusto ko po isang laptop ko gawin naman windows, ganyan po lagi naka ilang ulit na po ako, laptop ko po kasi ayaw na bumalik sa windows mula nung ginawa ko syang linux, nagtampo siguro kaya gusto ko na po ibalik sa windows salamat po sa makakasagot at sa . I rarely get any problems with other menu systems based on grub2\grub4dos\syslinux\isolinux, just Ventoy gives problems. unsigned kernel still can not be booted. Please refer When Ventoy2Disk.exe Failed to Install, Please refer When Ventoy2Disk.exe Fail to Update, Yes. Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. But, currently, that is not the case at all, which means that, independently of the merits of Secure Boot for this or that type of media (which is a completely different debate altogether), there is a breach of the security contract that the user expects to see enforced and therefore something that needs to be addressed. For Hiren's BootCD HBCD_PE_x64.iso has been tested in UEFI mode. Ventoy Binary Notes: This website is underprovisioned, so please download ventoy in the follows: (remember to check the SHA-256 hash) https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases Source Code Ventoy's source code is maintained on both Github and Gitee. . Please thoroughly test the archive and give your feedback, what works and what don't. Does it work on these machines (real or emulated) by booting it from a CDR / .iso image? @blackcrack But, considering that I've been trying for the last 5 years to rally people against Microsoft's "no GPLv3 policy" without going anywhere, and that this is what ultimately forced me to rewrite/relicense UEFI:NTFS, I'm not optimistic about it. 1.0.84 BIOS www.ventoy.net ===> en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1909_updated_april_2020_x64_dvd_aa945e0d.iso | 5 GB, en_windows_10_business_editions_version_2004_x64_dvd_d06ef8c5.iso | 5 GB Hello , Thank you very very much for your testings and reports. I'm considering two ways for user to select option 1. The same applies to OS/2, eComStation etc. Currently there is only a Secure boot support option for check. Download Debian net installer. KANOTIX uses a hybrid ISO layout, it definitely has X64 UEFI in ISO9660 and FAT12 (usually 1MiB offset). Delete or rename the \EFI folder on the VTOYEFI partition 2 of the Ventoy drive. https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm64/aarch64/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/FreeBSD-13.1-RELEASE-arm64-aarch64-disc1.iso. I'm not sure how Ventoy can make use of that boot process, because, in a Secure Boot enabled environment, all UEFI:NTFS accomplishes is that it allows you to chain load a Secure Boot signed UEFI boot loader from an NTFS partition, and that's it. For me I'm missing Hiren's Boot CD (https://www.hirensbootcd.org/) - it's WindowsPE based and supports UEFI from USB. 6. Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. Not associated with Microsoft. Thank you We talk about secure boot, not secure system. Ventoy supports both BIOS Legacy and UEFI, however, some ISO files do not support UEFI mode. This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. The error sits 45 cm away from the screen, haha. It looks like that version https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33 fixes issue with my thinkpad. Maybe the image does not suport IA32 UEFI! privacy statement. I'll test it on a real hardware a bit later. @pbatard No bootfile found for UEFI! You can put a file with name .ventoyignore in the specific directory. They all work if I put them onto flash drives directly with Rufus. Can't say for others, but I made Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk with that exact purpose: to bypass Secure Boot validation policy. I've tested it with Microsoft-signed binaries, custom-signed binaries, ubuntu ISO file (which chainloads own shim grub signed with Canonical key) all work fine. OpenMandrivaLx.4.0-beta.20200426.7145-minimal.x86_64.iso - 400 MB, en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1909_updated_march_2020_x64_dvd_b193f738.iso | 5 GB And that is the right thing to do. Don't get me wrong, I understand your concerns and support your position. Yes ! But i have added ISO file by Rufus. All the userspace applications don't need to be signed. Secure Boot is tricky to deal with and can (rightfully) be seen as a major inconvenience instead of yet another usually desireable line of defence against malware (but by all means not a panacea). Option2: Use Ventoy's grub which is signed with MS key. Latest Laptop UEFI 64+SECURE BOOT ON Blocked message. Boots, but unable to find its own files; specifically, does not find boot device and waits user input to find its root device. Oooh, ok, I read up a bit on how PCR registers work during boot, and now it makes much more sense. I will test it in a realmachine later. What matters is what users perceive and expect. All the .efi files may not be booted. Are you using an grub2 External Menu (F6)? it doesn't support Bluetooth and doesn't have nvidia's proprietary drivers but it's very easy to install. Would disabling Secure Boot in Ventoy help? With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk over and over, you just need to copy the ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI. lo importante es conocer las diferencias entre uefi y bios y tambien entre gpt y mbr. Porteus-CINNAMON-v4.0-x86_64.iso - 321 MB, APorteus-MULTI-v20.03.19-x86_64.iso - 400 MB, Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-32_Beta-1.2.iso - 1.92 GB, Paragon_Hard_Disk_Manager_15_Premium_10.1.25.1137_WinPE_x64.iso - 514 MB, pureos-9.0-plasma-live_20200328-amd64.hybrid.iso - 1.65 GB, pfSense-CE-2.4.5-RELEASE-amd64.iso - 738 MB, FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20200319-r359106-disc1.iso - 928 MB, wifislax64-1.1-final.iso - 2.18 GB memz.mp4. Strelec WinPE) Ctrl+r for ventoy debug mode Ctrl+h or h for help m checksum a file all give ERROR on my PC But, even as I don't actually support the idea that Secure Boot is useless if someone has physical access to the device (that was mostly Steve positing this as a means to justify that not being able to detect Secure Boot breaches on USB media isn't that big a deal), I do believe there currently still exist a bit too many ways to ensure that you can compromise a machine, if you have access to said machine. Optional custom shim protocol registration (not included in this build, creates issues). Could you please also try via BIOS/Legacy mode? Have you tried grub mode before loading the ISO? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s. Legacy\UEFI32\UEFI64 boot? access with key cards) making sure that your safe does get installed there, so that it should give you an extra chance to detect ill intentioned people trying to access its content. @ventoy I have tested on laptop Lenovo Ideapad Z570 and Memtest86-4.3.7.iso and ipxe.iso gived same error but with additional information: netboot.xyz-efi.iso (v2.0.17), manjaro-gnome-20.0.3-200606-linux56.iso, Windows10_PLx64_2004.iso worked fine. https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NFuDCZQ00, http://tinycorelinux.net/13.x/x86_64/release/. Rik. 22H2 works on Ventoy 1.0.80. pentoo-full-amd64-hardened-2020.0_p20200527.iso - 4 GB, avg_arl_cdi_all_120_160420a12074.iso - 178 MB, Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20200419.n.0.iso - 1.80 GB You can install Ventoy to USB drive, Removable HD, SD Card, SATA HDD, SSD, NVMe . You answer my questions and then I will answer yours MEMZ.img was listed with no changes for me. So thanks a ton, @steve6375! As I understand, you only tested via UEFI, right? Then user will be clearly told that, in this case only distros whose bootloader signed with valid key can be loaded. Tested on 1.0.57 and 1.0.79. Go ahead and download Rufus from here. The user should be notified when booting an unsigned efi file. I can provide an option in ventoy.json for user who want to bypass secure boot. By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and I will give more clear warning message for unsigned efi file when secure boot is enabled. Do I still need to display a warning message? Tried it yesterday. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that, if you have a Secure Boot capable system, then firmware manufacturers might add a condition that you can only use TPM-based encryption if you also have Secure Boot enabled, as this can help reduce attack vectors against the TPM (by preventing execution of arbitrary code at the early UEFI boot stage, which may make poking around the TPM easier if it has a vulnerability).
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