All entries must be received by giveaway end date. A series of targets John shot with the Marlin 1894, proving the accuracy use hot loads). will drive those bullets to a MV of 1217 fps. Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, State Agency: Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Purchase A PDF Download Of The GUNS Magazine December 2019 Issue Now! same bullets to a MV of 1409 fps. other. 12 gauge. were measured in a 6" S&W revolver barrel using Speer cases and (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. The next powder is meant for magnum cartridges using heavy bullets. 10 gauge. I'd have to agree with some , 2400 and unique . Factory warranties may apply in some cases. All of these bullets (below) can be used successfully in the .357 Magnum rifle The data shows not only the group sizes, but also the load recipes used with the velocities given. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. John Wootters questions as to whether or not the .357 Magnum was a rifle cartridge is pretty much the same conclusion I came to many years ago. Cartridge Use & HistoryThe .357 Smith & Wesson Magnum, .357 S&W Magnum, .357 Magnum, or 933mmR as it is known in unofficial metric designation, is a smokeless powder cartridge with a .357-inch (9.07 mm) bullet diameter. For the .357 mag I load hard cast bullets at full power (1,250 fps +/-) mostly using 2400 and AA#9. It would be great if I could also use it for .44 mag and .44 special. From my perspective in this stage of my life if I could have only one centerfire rifle, it would be a .357 Magnum levergun, with my first choice being the Marlin 1894. Like they say, this is close enough for government work. +1 on Hellbents slant on Titegroup in the .357 . I agree with @Knob Creek on the clays though. Some loads use bullets of .358 for jacketed and .359 for lead. field (against large predators). Now this rifle is ready for use by several generations of our family. Like mentioned, use a magnum primer with magnum powders and do not reduce H1110/Win 296 below recommended start loads. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. I do like H110 in the .357 and .44 in both the revolvers and the carbines. I have used Red Dot, Promo, W-231, HP-38, Titegroup, & Unique. However, load them in the Henry Big Boy and we pick up 375 fps and 250 fps respectively. If you had 2400 or similar powder you would be set up perfect for magnum lead loads. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Any suggestions? davestarbuck posted this 06 December 2010. A comparatively fast burning powder with a burn rate about the same as Winchester 231 and Alliant Red Dot. SWC+GC, 160 gr. ", http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show58-SCW-results, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to I'm off to a slow start because I have other things going on, but I should be ready to rock real soon. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. Mike. I have H110 for my 357 Magnum hot loads however, not recommended for lead bullets due to needing to keep the velocity down. a slower burning powder, I suggest H-4227, LilGun, W-296,2400, HS6 or No. all purpose, and I also use them for .38 special, just less of it. 6.4 gr. First time using lead cast bullets. their 158 grain bullets to a MV of 1151 fps, and 15.5 grains of H110 I don't want to blow myself up right away. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. The same cartridge and rifle can be used for predator control if you occasionally find the need to deal with marauding coyotes and like to keep a gun by the back door. For hard cast work up to no more than 6.7grs max Winchesters data, I have Cowboy Action Shooting .357 load. I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads. Unique is a great choice. Lead bullets are great for such high-volume shooting. So many options, so little experience! can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. 231,100% burnt at 1.85 inches of barrel length. Deployed military should use stateside address. I'm assuming I can just use any 170 gr bullet data but want to make sure. Contest void where prohibited by law. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. One of my favorite heavy bullets is the 200-gr. The firearm hobby is a broad one, with many subdivisions of interest and activity. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: Rottiejake said: I'm caught up with all my loads except .357 mag. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. 16 gauge. Bianchi Speed Strips are a compact loading device for revolvers . NRA Member..SWCA Member..Semi-Retired, But Not Dead Yet. Ammo, Inc. Signature .38 Special - 125 Grain TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) Brass Cased Centerfire Pistol Ammunition - Best Stopping Power .38 Special Ammo. Ive also never loaded a factory round into my Model 13 and had it shoot to point of aim the way I want it to. 5.8 gr. Marc - accipere facile, sed sumite! Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. I too have used Alliant 2400, it makes an excellent full/hunting load. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. shows that 16.5 grains of 2400 powder will drive their 125 grain Here, I like to shoot a .357 magnum case loaded with a copper-plated 158 grain flat point projectile and a Bullseye charge calibrated to the gun to just make the power factor of 105. The minimum charge of WW296 (H-110 same stuff ) Winchester used to publish in the re-loading pamphlet was 14.5gr and SP Magnum primer, under a 158gr SWC. 2021. length article about the .357 Magnum can be found on the Handgun The reason I moved to Alliant Power Pro 300MP was I was impressed with what I read about it and have found it to be very clean burning, relatively low muzzle flash, accurate and can get a 150 to 250 more fps while still keeping well within the SAAMI 35,000 psi limit. As most revolver cartridges fade further into obscurity every year, the .357 continues to have new life breathed into it by ammunition companies and gun manufacturers who recognize the demand for this venerable cartridge. South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: No purchase necessary. I'm probably gonna run off about 750 rounds, using hard cast 158 grain SWC. I use both bullseye and 231 for 38 special. According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. Upgrade efforts paused for now. Your trying to do what I was trying to do for a whole year. Always used 2400 for that and my .44. Powder requirements for the plated bullets are supposed to be half way between lead and jacketed reloading data. Please read, but do not attempt anything posted here without first seeking out safe and complete instruction. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. My Lyman's claims that for 357 magnum, the 2400 is the best powder delivering highest velocity and accuracy. Handloading also lets you utilize a vast library of .38 Special loads, one of the .357s biggest perks. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w/regular small pistol primers has become my favorite. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. The .44 Magnum loads were also a bit modest and could have been pushed harder. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. They list 4 gn of Unique will give 900 FPS with a 140gn bullet. Bestseller No. Most likely I'll be loading lead bullets. Powders .) The 140 grain bullet can by 9.8 grains of HS-6. Box 502795, San Diego, CA 92150-1377. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Then use whatever you can find cheap for 38 special right now. I'll expand and experiment once I fully understand what I'm doing. Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: Teach them the truth, and let them sort thru the cobwebs of liberalism that have infested their minds. . Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM April 2023, P.O. In a pinch, the .38 Super can be fired through a .357 Mag, however that is not recommended on a . Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. California Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Any information or suggestions offered in this article are intended to be put into practice only by serious shooters and handloaders with proper training and using safe reloading methods and recipes. I go through a lot of Blue Dot on 357 mag and you can use it with 38 Spl as well. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? I dont worry about the power factor much because CAS threshold is so low, its not worth the tiny savings in recoil against having to compensate for a two inch high point of impact. Originally Posted by Hick. If you hunt in predominantly tight spaces with shorter sight lines, a .357 lever rifle is a wonderful gun to carry all day. The loads are not updated yearly. that can be adapted to all types of activity. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. Here are the features to watch out for. I used 13 gr of Alliant's 2400 under a 125 gr. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Throwingdown, May 26, 2009. 5, No. Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Deployed military should use stateside address. Cheers! Some people might think this is too little gun for a humane kill on a whitetail; this is misguided. The big advantage with the rifle is the fact it is not only easier to shoot at longer ranges but it also picks up significant muzzle velocity over a sixgun barrel. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I would exclude H110 altogether. If you are looking for a target/plinking load for your 357's I have found using 5.5 grains of Unique behind either a 158 grain LSWC or Rainier Plated bullet to be very accurate and pleasurable to shoot. Hornady - Critical Defense 38 Special Ammo - Most Versatile 38 Special Ammo. Discussion: Universal and Unique are good for lighter bullets, but if you want Find a book that lists loads for the bullet you will use. Hand loading required. Contest open to U.S. residents only. I use hodgdon HS6 and Lil gun for my .357 loads and lilgun for the .454 casull. Is it worth my effort in developing 357mag loads using this powder..wondering if it was to fast..I am using 158gr sierra JHP bullets. Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: H110 and 296 require Magnum primers and like to be loaded at the upper end. Most loads will work fine in a sixgun as long as they chamber in the cylinder, however the levergun can be pickier. One for heavy loads and one for light. Contest open to U.S. residents only. No soup can is safe. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. loads today have a limit of 17,000 p.s.i., whereas the .357 Magnum's is 35,000. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. I can't claim to have developed these - just use them as my go to loads. By FortuneCookie45LC. .357 Magnum factory It looks like anything over 950 fps is pretty much topping out the range for this revolver. (Photo: Andy C). amounts listed above (but not where it says start load), and work up to the This is a good load. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. I have gotten the best results/grouping with all three using 18 grains of 300MP with Hornady 158 grain XTP's. A shooter using the .357 must limit himself to broad-side shots on deer. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Reloading Manual shows that 13.9 grains of H110 will drive The .357 Mag is one of the most flexible handgun rounds. Cartridges page. I get similar results with the same bullet and 4 to 4.5 grains of W231. Thanks for your patience. If the tolerances are close between minimum and maximum loads, imagine what the effect of different bullets might be. full loads. Hodgdon - 700-X. (1995) Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and Note: Hodgdon as of 2009 controls IMR and Winchester Powders. is 1235 fps and the ME is 535 ft. lbs. A 50-ft target with the .357 Blackhawk using 158-grain cast flatpoints with 7.0 grains of Unique. For smaller game, Ive stuffed a 90-grain lead bullet into a case over a slight charge of Bullseye for a quiet, soft-shooting round that has taken many rabbits, squirrels and grouse by headshot. Theres no single cartridge that can do everything, especially not with affordability in mind. Life is worth living make every minute of every day count for you. If the loads work in the rifle barrel its almost a sure thing they will do fine in the sixgun, however it is almost imperative one uses either jacketed or hard cast gas-checked bullets in the rifle barrel. (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. While the revolver divisions of IPSC and IDPA are dwindling in participation numbers, theyre extremely rewarding to focus on. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. I also wanted a better finish than the plain stained buttstock and forearm so I had Milt put a real finish on the wood. (I) Giveaway ends September 30, 2021. Hodgdon recommends lighter-than-usual powder charges for the 140 grain FTX. Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Much cheaper to load your own. Gregory, just to give you an idea about Unique, I have loaded 357 mag with a 158 jacketed round to 7.5 grains using Winchester primers. West Virginia Division of Natural Resources, State Agency: revolver barrel. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. HP38 is a spherical powder that is great for low velocity and mid-range target loads in the .38 Special, .44 Special, and 45 ACP. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. That's not what you asked at all. If you want to download your .357 Magnum ammo 2400 is a better choice. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. This load in a 5-1/2 Ruger New Model Flat-Top clocks out at 1,333 fps. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. Accuracy can be greatly refined through reloading, though I would go factory for self defense. It is suitable only for full power magnum handgun loads and .30 Carbine loads. Vihtavuori provides load data for .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Load data is available for 9mm Luger, .38 Super Auto, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .40 S&W, .44 S&W Special, .44 Remington Magnum, .45 ACP and . containers. I load this bullet over 13.0 grains of H110 and 12.0 grains of #2400. In Cowboy Action Shooting, 45 Colt guns are popular for authenticitys sake, but .357 guns are more practical from a cost standpoint. Winchester Rifle Primers. I just checked my powders, and I have way too much Bullseye, and only a fair amount of 2400. the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. New York Department of Environmental Conservation, State Agency: HP-38. It's a super accurate load in the Model 19s and the Model 27. . (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. It was not long before Winchester Model 1892s originally in .32-20 were converted to .357 Magnum. (Cowboy Action) 44 Russian (Cowboy Action) 44 S&W Special (Cowboy Action) 44-40 Win . I've got a closet with at least 10 different powders. 2, No. be driven to a MV of 1005 fps by 8.8 grains of HS6 powder, or 1142 fps To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Muzzle velocity from a 4-5/8 Ruger Old Model Flat-Top are 1,050 fps and 1,150 feet per second respectively. Unique is a wonderful choice, but as Beagle333 stated I cannot find any. My second choice for light loads would be Winchester 231 or Hodgdon HP-38 which are the same powder. The .357 remains the best selling of all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun cartridges. But for all that inherent diversity, Ive found theres a single cartridge that lets me cover most bases while keeping expense down and enjoyment up. For I think 2400 is the most versatile and forgiving of the propellants commonly used in magnum pistol powders. a lightweight .357 or older gun, you may want to start with 13% less than Reloading Scale, Powder Scale for Reloading, 1500 Grains X . Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. Winchester #209 777 Primers - 100-Pack. Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Snuffy. It burns much cleaner than Bull's Eye and gives great accuracy. Whenever You Try To Make Something IDIOT PROOFThey Will Just Make Better IDIOTS! But it may depend on your definition of 'full power'. The reason my loads for the .357 Magnum levergun are the same as they are for the .357 Magnum sixgun is simply because the whole point is to be able to use the same load in both. For the most part, I use the same loads in .357 Magnum leverguns as I do in sixguns chambered for the same cartridge. Since I started doing this seriously, Ive only bought one gun, a .308 bolt-action rifle. I just use a minimum charge of 15gr of 296 with 158gr coated lead bullets. With Titegroup, say in 45ACP, you most likely could even put a triple charge in that case, I would be afraid of using it in any larger case. Reloading bench, featuring the very reloadable .357. In the 1:16 16.25 barrels, we tested loads from subsonic .38 Special to a stout .357 Maximum and everything in between. The versatility of loads for the .357 cartridge means that it excels as an all-purpose handgun round, suitable for just about every shooting activity imaginable: For recreational shooting, full-tilt .357 Magnum loads are pretty intense for extended sessions on both the hands and the wallet out of most revolvers. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. When I dress Western, nothing beats the classic good looks of my Smith & Wesson (S&W) 586 .357 revolver. Some manufacturers make the 148 grain hollow-based wadcutter, but theyre uncommon and expensiveand not tailored to your gun. A Cold War era classic with smooth lines, a legendary back story, and an exotic-sounding name, Beretta's Model 71 was definitely a mouse that roared. I tried 2205 in a 9 3/4" Ruger Super Red Hawk and there was lots of unburnt powder, it . ballistics tables call for a muzzle velocity of 1450 fps for the 125 Here's what it's like to shoot this classic scattergun. Contest void where prohibited by law. Optimal accuracy? but only the gas check versions will normally work with the heavier loads. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. You find load data for cartridges in caliber .357 Magnum with all common powders and bullets by clicking the "Loads in this caliber" button above. Personally, it would never go into a semi auto that had a partially supported chamber, never. Shooters have been arguing for nearly 85 years as to whether the .357 Magnum is suitable for use on deer. grains of H110 powder will drive the 140 grain bullet to a MV of 1323 Alaska Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: 6 shots and point the muzzle upwards before each shot across a chronograph and 6 shots with the muzzle pointed down over the same chronograph. & Wesson as the world's most powerful handgun cartridge. I had Milt Morrison slick up the action and take the trigger back to 3-1/2 lbs. HP38 is probably as fast as I would go, but in my case, 10.1 grs.
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